This is an interview I had with a French journalism student Jean-Gabriel Ferndandez.
Parts of it are redacted, for two reasons. First reason is that some of this is just tiresome arranging of the deal and the second reason is that parts of it relate to certain personal information that I feel wouldn’t be wise to discern now, especially with the upcoming plans I have. In any case, redacted parts are of no importance for discussing actual issues.
(first messages redacted)
Hello, and thank you very much!
I am aware some questions already have answers in your blog, but it is a necessary part of the interview process so you’re given the full ability to screen what may or may not be printed. I hope this is alright with you. What is going to interest me here, besides your beliefs, is your personal experience, the path that lead you where you are now in life. I encourage you to express yourself freely even if something you’d like to say isn’t covered by my questions!
First of all, could you introduce yourself – either with your real name of a fake name you are okay with me using? How old are you and where do you live (city, country)? What communities relating to inceldom are you a part of or have you been a part of – dedicated subreddits, your blog, love-shy… what else?
Second, can you summarize to me in clear terms I could (and certainly will) directly quote what you consider inceldom to be, what your views on sexuality and women are? I am unwilling to quote bits and pieces of your long and numerous blog posts on the subject for fear of misrepresenting what you mean.
How was your childhood? Did you grow up with your parents, was it a happy time in your life, did you have many friends? When and how did you first discover your sexuality? How did it impact the way you interacted with people around you? Did it change the vision you had of women? Can you remember any specific examples that may illustrate how you shaped your view of sexuality and/or women, one or several events that helped you shape your worldview? Have you ever suffered from conditions such as autism, anxiety disorders or depression, which are very common according to love-shy.com? Would you say you had many friends growing up, in school and early adult life, and how would you rate your ability to relate to other people?
What meaning does the word carry, for you? When and why did you start considering yourself an incel? Was it related to online activities, discovering incel-related communities? You’ve been very active in such communities; what brought you to that, what motivated you? How would you qualify those communities? Are they welcoming, easy to fit in, did they help you on a personal/intimate level? What are the leading ideas that you’ve found are often central to discussions there? I would simply life you to express what you genuinely think of your experience with forums and websites dedicated to incels, please go wild and express all you can think of! Those places generally have a bad reputation, what would you say to people hating on them?
Could you give me a rundown on your past relationships and experiences with women? If that is fine with you, I would also like you to share what your current relationship is like. Who is your girlfriend, how did you meet and how do you feel towards her? I heard you have had a daughter, what can you tell me about her, and what is your relationship with her? Has your worldview evolved since you became a father, and if so how much?
I have plenty of follow-up questions if you’re still feeling up to discuss after that. Either way, I am immensely grateful you accept to answer even just those! Anything you can give me is a precious insight I will try to exploit to the best of my ability. Thank you very much again (and sorry for the many questions, I hope it’s not too much of a bother for you)!
Sure, I’ll reply, it will just take some time.
My real name had never been disclosed by me or anywhere online. There are several versions of what is believed to be my real name online but none of them are actually my name (remaining explanation on this redacted) I am currently 28 years old and living in (redacted) for the last 9 months as I have gained employment there. I was born and am actually a citizen of Croatia, from Zagreb (the capital). My heritage is Serbian (my ancestors moved to Croatia in the 18th century). I would not like to disclose where I am currently in (redacted), as I have a group of haters dedicated to tracking me down. But I feel it is not so important anyway.
“Second, can you summarize to me in clear terms I could (and certainly will) directly quote what you consider inceldom to be, what your views on sexuality and women are? I am unwilling to quote bits and pieces of your long and numerous blog posts on the subject for fear of misrepresenting what you mean.”
(First question) Involuntary celibacy (colloquially incel) is chronic near-total or total absence in a person’s sexuality of intimate relationships or sexual intercourse that is occurring for reasons other than voluntary celibacy, asexuality, antisexualism, sexual abstinence, unreasonable in mate criteria and unfounded fears/dogmas.
A couple of years ago one involuntary celibate person said that, according to him, most people are to be considered in a state of absolute involuntary celibacy when they were, against their wishes, unable to obtain either of these things in more than six months :
1. a relationship
2. unpaid sex
I agree with the definition and think that more than 6 months without both of those things, and against your desire, are abnormal enough to be called incel.
More important than the exact number of months, however, is whether long periods of celibacy are a recurring pattern in an individual’s D/S/R history. Many people go without D/S/R for six-month or longer stretches, but rarely experience such problems as a constantly recurring pattern.
This goes for most people. There are, however, those people who could be considered completely non-celibate with only one of those things in their life. For example, an asexual person could only be satisfied with a relationship while a person not wanting any relationships with anybody could be satisfied with only sex. The key thing is desire.
Also, it is important to note that only unpaid sex is considered to be relevant for whether or not somebody is an involuntary celibates. Involuntary celibates who use prostitutes are still considered involuntary celibates.
(Second question) The second question is pretty vague but I will try to answer to the best of my abilities. Since around 2014 I have become a reactionary anti-feminist who believes that that women should be married off as virgins and not be allowed to vote while males should only be using prostitutes before and during marriage. I believe that four key traits of a good society are 1. monogamy 2. good religion 3. female premarital chastity 4. widely available prostitution. Number 1 and 4 aren’t contradictory, because sleeping with prostitutes isn’t considered actual cheating in sane societies. Actual cheating is having a lover you invest in.
“Could you give me a rundown on your past relationships and experiences with women? If that is fine with you, I would also like you to share what your current relationship is like. Who is your girlfriend, how did you meet and how do you feel towards her? I heard you have had a daughter, what can you tell me about her, and what is your relationship with her? Has your worldview evolved since you became a father, and if so how much?”
Between 2013 and 2016 I basically stopped all dating. Between the experiences I mention there were many, many failed dates and disappointments. I could no longer bear that. At that time my political views changed a lot and I became a reactionary anti-feminist who hates modern Western women and wants a return of the patriarchy (as explained in that Story of your incel post). I also did some illegal things but this I can’t go into.
In late 2014 I called that girl I used to be friends with benefits with in 2013 back to Zagreb and had unprotected sex with her multiple times since she wanted to be a mother and my haters online were mocking me that I will never reproduce. I have seen how many evil and stupid people did reproduce so I was gonna prove to them that it might not be that hard. And it worked. She got pregnant but I have never seen her since. She first returned to her town on the Adriatic and then she moved to Netherlands in early 2015, in early stages of pregnancy. She has a daughter but I have never been to Netherlands nor do I care about this daughter and she doesn’t want me in their life either, as was the deal. My worldview hasn’t evolved much. As I said, I have never seen my daughter but I got evidence that it isn’t so hard to breed. You have to use people around you, even if they are somewhat ill, like that girl is (she has schizophrenia). It’s the best you can do in this society.
In early 2017 I became a Muslim and moved to (redacted) for a while. There I was introduced into their Muslim community. I met my girlfriend via Tinder. She claimed to be 18 years old but was in fact just 17 (she lied about her age at the time). This relationship is different than the ones I had before. I now know how women are dealt with in the current non-patriarchal rotten society. My girlfriend is tightly controlled by me and my Muslim community, and she is available to them in every way. I realize now that good relationships are only possible in a patriarchal, coalpha society.
Also, I’d like to mention one more thing. The leftists/liberals say that incels promote violence etc. But you must understand what the liberal definition of violence is to understand just how hollow that is. Liberalism is hatred of the whites. An act of rape is a crime of rape only when a white rapes. Other acts defined as rape by liberals are whites having consensual sex, whites asking a girl on a date, and every other act a white does to get a relationship and sex.
Are you done replying? I’ve went through your answers and I find it fascinating. Thank you very much for all your insights!
I will crunch the answers you gave me and see what I can get out of them, then I may come up with follow-up questions (although what you told me seems really rich and complete already). I am very grateful to you!
If you have things you want to share, even if I don’t ask you to, please feel free to contact me! I contacted a few other prominent incel bloggers, none of which replied to me so far. I am in touch with a french incel community, a psychiatrist specialized in the effects of celibacy in the adult life as well as a law firm to learn about the details of legislation when it comes to freedom of speech online.
I haven’t seen it in fact! I don’t speak german but I would love to see it if you wouldn’t mind.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t speak German. There is translation to it in English. This was originally published in the Aug 2014 issue of Der Spiegel. I would just like to warn you about some things in the article
I obviously won’t/can’t say if I practiced it myself but it is quite obvious from my posts. I believe it isn’t morally reprehensible if the raped ones are modern Western women who feminism turned into worthless scum. This doesn’t mean that all women everywhere deserve to be raped. Women in non-feminist places shouldn’t be raped and even some women in feminist places (like Amish or Mormon women in America) don’t deserve to be raped.