Fucking cunt

On days, like this
In times like these
I feel an animal deep inside

This girl replied to my ad about 3 weeks ago. We started talking on gmail, as she had no msn or Skype profiles. She seemed beautiful, she seemed smart. But then she told me that she’s in a relationship. I asked her what she’s gonna do about it and she said that she wants to break it off.

I didn’t contact her for the next day or two and then I ended up in a hospital for exhaustion and dehydration. I had my cell phone by me but didn’t bother, thought I was gonna contact her when I feel better. And so I did, once I left the hospital after a few days. She immediately told me she broke up with her now ex-boyfriend the day after our first talk but that she’s giving up because I haven’t talked to her for a week. When I explained what happened she apologized.

We arranged to have a meeting on Friday, April 12. She cancelled it because her ex contacted her again. She was confused. I tried to explain my situation to her in a tone that was full of understanding but also kinda stern, warning her about how it’s not fair that I get treated this way. She called me and said I’m right and that she needed to hear something like that.

We met on Monday. It was pretty interesting, though I didn’t feel any chemistry immediately. But that was ok- she said none of her relationships started with immediate chemistry and only two times I had chemistry on a first date was with a girl who was really aggressive and practically offered herself to me on a silver platter and a girl who wanted nothing to do with me on a second date because she was kinda… weird. I told her how I like history, about my life in college and she told me about herself and her work in a store. It wasn’t a very long talk, under 2 hours. We parted with a mutual agreement to see each other on Sunday, when she’ll be off from work early and we will be able to talk for a longer time.

During the next few days we talked every night on Gmail. Nothing seemed to go wrong. She even seemed more eager than I was, saying how she’ll bake me pancakes and make me happy. During this week I experienced several ugly events and finally told her about it two night ago, saying how some people can really be mean as hell, thinking about nothing and nobody but their own whims. I also honestly told her I’m afraid. Afraid that she’ll reject me or that I won’t want her enough on Sunday for her to want me. She comforted me with long posts that seemed sincere.

We didn’t talk on Friday night, I was busy with something else. And, for some reason, I started getting a really bad feeling.
This morning she told me she doesn’t want to force anything so we shouldn’t meet at all. According to her, it was over.

I asked her if she was aware that we made a promise about seeing each other on Sunday, not a promise of being in a relationship.
I asked her why she acted like everything was great after Monday.

She replied that her intuition is telling her that something is wrong and that she didn’t quite like me from the beginning but didn’t want to hurt me.

I was amazed. I am still in doubt whether or not her posts between Monday and Thursday were genuine or not. They seem to be.

Despite all my pleadings and attempts to convince her of the otherwise, she doesn’t want to meet me tomorrow. She says that “there are other girls”.

I’ve had over 15 failed dates this year. 2 of them were with girls I liked, and they didn’t like me, something I didn’t thought possible till about a month and a half ago – I thought there is either mutual attraction or no attraction. And I still soldiered on.

But this…. This is something nobody has ever done to me.

And this is something I will not let go like it never happened. From the time I see her tomorrow till whatever happens next. This is disgusting behavior.

I don’t feel entitled to anything. I just feel angry and sad. I don’t think I’m entitled to see her tomorrow. Nobody entitled me to that. I just need to. Even if there is no hope I need to show her that actions have consequences.

This is something I won’t just let go.


WARNING- comments criticizing my reaction and intentions are allowed, but particularly nasty stuff, especially from feminists and manginas might at least be moderated. Insane stuff and any talk of me committing criminal activities will just get you permabanned, first post or a regular commentator, I don’t care. So if you want to get banned, probably without anybody but me seeing your nonsense, go ahead.

Depending on the reactions I might do everything from updating on the situation to even deleting the post.

97 thoughts on “Fucking cunt

  1. You call her a “fucking cunt” and then wonder why she dare to say “her intuition is telling her that something is wrong and that she didn’t quite like me from the beginning”?

    Wow.

      • Holy shit, dude. DO NOT go anywhere near this woman or contact her again. You obviously don’t want to hear this but the things you’re saying in these posts are incredibly unhealthy. You say therapy isn’t working for you; if that’s the case, you need to get a new therapist. The thought patterns you’re displaying here are really fucked up and to be perfectly honest you seem like a huge danger to others, particularly women. The problem is not women; the problem is you.

        • “Holy shit, dude. DO NOT go anywhere near this woman or contact her again.”

          Don’t worry. You won’t know if I do or I don’t. Maybe I already did. Maybe I never will. Who cares. All that matters is that she’s scum.

          “You obviously don’t want to hear this but the things you’re saying in these posts are incredibly unhealthy.”

          Yes, they are. And I am not normal. I know that. Is that the fucking issue here? That I’m not normal? Of course I am not normal. Nobody who was incel for 10 years just to have his first sex at 24 isn’t normal. Note the incel part, against his will.

          “You say therapy isn’t working for you; if that’s the case, you need to get a new therapist. ”

          No. I had dozens of therapists, none of them helped me at all. I was even smarter than some of them, which was unacceptable, and the only reason why I drop therapists.

          “The thought patterns you’re displaying here are really fucked up and to be perfectly honest you seem like a huge danger to others, particularly women.”

          The problem almost everybody commenting fails to realize is that while if I do become a danger to others it’s due to 10 years of irresponsibility by my parents any my government. They are much more dangerous to me than I am to them.

          “The problem is not women; the problem is you.”

          And the world is black and white.

      • What do you mean she is in trouble? What are you exactly planning to do? If you show up at her place of work, you will turn the entire store staff against you and risk getting the police called if they ask you to leave and you refuse. You could be the one in serious trouble.

        If you show up at her house, or stalk her, you risk that she contacts the police and gets a restraining order. In fact if she does not want you around her but you force yourself on her in any way, the person that will eventually be in trouble is going to be you.

        I understand your frustration as I am 25 and actually incel (unlike you who has someone to have a sexual relation with, I have never had anybody) and have been through similar situations. But if you are going to stalk people, you might have a serious problem already and should get professional help. You will not get this girl, you will never get this girl because she does not want you. You must accept this and move on..

        • I basically agree with your post except for one thing – I don’t need professional help as I’m getting it right now and it ain’t doing jack shit. Nothing makes this more clearer than the fact I was in therapy for over an year before I started this blog.

          I am not sure what I will do or if I will do something at all but I haven’t been this angry in years.

          It’s easy to say that I have to move on, but after 15 rejections in just 2013 I’m extremely angry, depressed and discouraged.

  2. So, let me see if I understand it.
    She was talking to you a lot, said she’ll bake you pancakes and wrote long reassuring posts that nothing bad is gonna happen? Was it this she wrote? That your fears are unfounded and she’ll be there?

    If she then broke it off, all I can say is that she picked the wrongest moment to reject. I suspect she truly didn’t want to hurt you, saw the state you were in (recently been in a hospital, and anxious), but ended up hurting you more by waiting for too long and giving major false expectations. It was thoughtless of her, but this is why we shouldn’t get too attached to people we don’t know well. You often comment how you either have chemistry, or you have none with the girls you meet on dates. But chemistry is not everything. You should take some time to see if they have good character, before giving up your feelings. That includes things like trust, love and similar. Opening up and showing all sorts of vulnerability can freak them out and repel them (if you do it too soon). Those things must be earned, and with something more than chemistry or beauty.

    • Whatever. The point is that only a moron could expect me to let this go. Only a noncel normative moron. You want me to let this go? Find me a girlfriend. Oh, you can’t? Then why should I let this go? What choice do I have?

        • Well, it seems I’m not much of a stalker, as I was so upset over this that I only feel asleep at 4am and woke up too late to find her coming back from work.

          However, she told me the name of the store she’s working at so I’ll go there tomorrow.

          It’s not gonna help me find a girlfriend. I will never find a girlfriend. I am now aware of that. All my attempts were frustrating, senseless nonsense. It’s too late. The only reason why I even have a fuck buddy is that if she were any dumber she’s be in an institution.

          I am not gonna accept being alone either. I’ll just do stupid GGG stuff until I get tired, satisfied, arrested or whatever.

        • That’s another story altogether. What matters is that I’m not using her at all, as she already has a boyfriend she’s cheating on with me. So all the idiots saying how I’m heartless because she will fall in love with me and that I’m bad etc were wrong. As they usually are.

      • GGGF:
        About stalking: today’s women collect stalkers and consider it some kind of meritorious activity—they all seem to pride themselves on how many scum are ‘stalking’ them and brag to their girlfriends about it. Don’t give these sluts the satisfaction. They don’t give a damn about real relationships and stalking them only hyperinflates their already overbloated egos.

      • “Only a moron could expect me to let this go”
        So by “moron” you mean a perfectly rational, non psychotic human being ?

        Grow up and get over it, it happens, it’s called life and it happens to everyone, and the fact that you’re making these menacing threats about a girl you met once, talked to for a very short amount of time and had virtually no real relationship with is a testament to how much you need help.
        I hope you get it.

  3. Based on this and previous posts, it seems like you really just don’t like women very much. Perhaps they can sense that. It hurts when someone rejects you, but your palpable desperation and hostility towards women has got to be a turn off for all those potential partners out there.

    • It’s easy to become desperate after you’ve had as many rejections as I did. Some probably can sense it, some can’t. I don’t know.

      But try getting into my shoes- 15 failed dates just in 2013? You eventually feel horrible.

      • maybe you should worry so much about having a girlfriend. all they are is drama anyway. you should just be looking for girls to fuck and who knows then it might turn into something more. sounds like a better plan to me then attemting to stalk some dumb bitch.

  4. I would just like to say I am sorry. I know what you mean when you just can’t let something like this go. Don’t listen to these idiots. It sucks but you gotta stick with it. Don’t give up even if this girl turns up being a big flake and gets back with her ex.

    • Wow Amber, That is really inappropriate and scary! You are saying that this woman doesn’t have the right to decide she doesn’t want to spend time with someone? I have issues with obsession sometimes, and it is hard, but giving in and justifying it will not help.Talking to your therapist, asking for a meds change, getting a ton of exercise, spending less time on the computer, those things help.

  5. You will eventually die childless and alone and your genes will return to the dust. This is for the best, I’m sure you agree.

    • I can’t really agree with you. For example, look at what various peoople I described on my blog are doing irl. Their barbaric, heinous acts?

      Look at the number of comments I get full of strawmen and lies.

      There are some extremely stupid people out there and many of them will breed. Look around you. You see geniuses on the street? I don’t.

      What I’m saying is that if I do procreate it won’t be the greatest tragedy ever nor will me dying childless be the best for society. What I do know is that if this blog starts a revolution I will achieve a lot more more for humanity than just procreating.

    • Misogina:
      I doubt your prediction will come true; but even if it does, it certainly is better for humanity than populating the earth with the feral offspring produced by modern women and their bad-boy thuggish lovers. What’s the rate of mentally dysfunctional offspring being raised by ‘heroic single moms’ in America now? Something like 25%? Those kids sure didn’t get THOSE genes because their moms were screwing intelligent and responsible males, now did they? LOL

      • Most mental dysfunctions aren’t genetically determined. Some can be genetically predisposed, but that’s not the same thing. The most common disorders (things like depression) are actually found in higher numbers among people with more money, which tend not to be the children of single mothers, but that could just be because we don’t find cases in less wealthy people because they aren’t able to get treated.

      • Stephanie:
        The statistics don’t lie. If women are reproducing with men who have long histories of drug/alcohol abuse; whose main diet is prison food and live unsanitary lives on the streets, these will have an effect on the foetus. And even after birth, the violence, neglect, and chaos the children are exposed to is bound to have an effect on their mental health.

        I don’t know if it’s true that these conditions are found among women of higher economic status, but I tend not to doubt it. Those women have no problem at all mating with the lowest and most feral thugs of the Underclass.

      • Actually, although there are some genetic predispositions to alcoholism, most of those things wouldn’t effect the fetus. The diet of the mother is significant, but not so much of the father (and in any case, if you’re eating prison food, then you’re in a mostly-male prison, and unlikely to impregnate anyone). Certainly, violence and neglect would have a negative effect.
        Sorry, that was unclear, I meant the children in affluent families are more likely to be depressed, not specifically women. Also, affluent families are more likely to be married households. And women from wealthy families actually aren’t likely to “mate” with “feral thugs”, statistics show that people tend to be in relationships (married, unmarried, and cheating) with people from their own socioeconomic status.

  6. Hi, I was incel for almost 2 years after a breakup with a girlfriend. I moved out of that state (in which I was living there mostly to be with her) and moved back to my home state and have been attending college ever since. There aren’t any attractive or available women in the college program that I am taking, so my college does not really provide me with opportunities to find a girlfriend. I tried online dating sites, which are pretty much garbage. They will almost never get you an actual date with a desirable woman. I did go on a few casual dates with 2 different women, and both of them became flakes after that and quit talking to me. That’s 2 women in 2 years and both rejected me in a way that they quit talking to me. I’m not sure if you could say that is better or worse than 15 failed dates, because at least you had their interest and some social interaction at one time. Eventually I met a girl at a pub that is now my friend with benefits. Once you have something like that to take care of some of your needs, the whole anxitey about being alone and having a girlfriend thing kind of goes out the window. I’m sure that I’ll find a girlfriend someday, but until then I can manage to get by with what I have. I hope this encourages you somewhat.

  7. have you ever considered finding a sex surrogate? idk if they’d even have those where you are. they’re basically therapists who get paid to have sex with their patients and it’s part of the therapeutic process.

  8. You don’t know if this is really the truth. She made several exploitations, first saying that her intuition says she’s wrong and then that she didn’t like me from the start but felt sorry for me and couldn’t tell me (so she told me less than 24 hours before the meeting?!).

    Also, some guy contacted me on gmail yesterday, saying he’s her boyfriend.

    My point being- she’s full of shit, who knows what’s the truth and none of this is any excuse for the barbaric things she did.

    Not just cancelling the day before but giving my e-mail to some dumb, illiterate asshole who threatens to beat me or making insane proposals like that we should meet but with that guy present. I told her I don’t remember that our deal included one of us bringing along some asshole, the other person knows nothing about but the fact that he threatened that person, to take place in a conversation or pretend he’s a bodyguard.

    It’s all barbaric, insane shit. She’s not 13 but 23, she shouldn’t be giving some retard my e-mail. This pissed me off even more.

    • You exhibit the same simpleton, barbaric mentality these two do. He can’t protect her and I have no idea who the moron even is but what he has achieved is quite the opposite- his poorly written, barely literate threats have made me even more determined to see her. She’s not gonna send some mentally retarded bullies after me. Was that the protection you were talking about? Some obviously poorly educated idiot with low IQ who can’t even spell insulting an already angry and hurt person all the time on gmail? Well, that’s some protection. Wow.

      Or did you think that her idea that some idiot will be next to her while we talk on a public place full of people is normal?

      Maybe in your neck of the fucking woods, but not in mine.

      ” it’s always someone else’ fault, someone else is a cunt, a dick, an idiot or just plain crazy…”

      It’s a bit too much of a generalization to say that it’s always the fault of somebody else but, yes, most people who reply to me are cunts, dicks or just plain crazy. Though most of them are plain stupid.

      Now go on protecting the crazy behavior of that stupid, uneducated barbaric cunt.

    • Dude, you’re angry she gave her boyfriend your email yet you don’t see a problem in talking about stalking her and “not letting this go”, and you may have even showed up at her job for all we know.
      I’m sorry if your mental illness prevents you from seeing the sheer ridiculousness here but you need to get a grip, for you own good and for the good of those around you.

      Quite frankly I’m glad she got her boyfriend involved, seems like the right thing to do considering who she’s dealing with.

  9. I mostly get along well with people. But I don’t allow psychopaths to do as they please. And she is a psychopath, not me.

    I would never do that to anybody.

    The problem is that we’re living in a psychopathic world where such behavior is allowed and moral, decent men who want others to uphold their promises and deals are seen as psychopaths.

    • “haha keep tellin’ yourself that. it’s the world that’s at fault, not you. psychopaths are all around you, it’s just that you’re the only one who notices them. sure”

      How do you know that I am the only one who notices them? Do you have any way of knowing that? No, you’re just assuming stuff.

      “doesn’t matter what you want to do (or claim that you want to do), you are ill-fit for this world and this society. you are the one out of the norm, you are the one who can’t adapt to the rest of the world.”

      Yes, and I am fine with that. It is a sick world.

      “and a girl who wanted nothing to do with me on a second date because she was kinda… weird.” – funny as hell! newsflash dude, you’re the weirdo.”

      So she can’t be weird not weird because you claim I am the weirdo? Or if is weird I shouldn’t be saying that because you claim I am the weirdo?

      newsflash dude, you’re retarded

    • You stalked her to her place of work and frightened her so badly she had to have some guy tell you to back off.

      GGG-Olive is banned now and the rest of her crap deleted but this an example of her stupidity. This loser didn’t make me back off at all. He is what made me determined to get revenge. She sees him as her greatest mistake now. If it weren’t for him she wouldn’t have as bad now.

      Violence never achieves anything with me. I’m too violent myself for that.

  10. You are trapped in this vacuous self imposed narrative that there is any chance government will provide you with a girlfriend. This blog is nothing but a medium for your attention whoring. Having said that, did you ever consider starting a privately funded start-up for just such a cause – getting partners for incels?

    • No, I haven’t. The amount of money I would need just to promote that is enormous, let alone fund women, infrastracture etc. And what would I earn from it? Zero.

      This blog isn’t just attention whoring but you fail to understand that I don’t function as “normal” people do. I am not a simpleton whose every day is the same. I spend most of my days texting with women and studying, always chasing the cheese that is one or another girl.

      It’s wrong to say that I am a fanatic now that I don’t have a girlfriend. That’s not how I work. If I had a gf I’d be calmer and write long, substantial posts.

      For example, I’ve had the post on my experience of primary school (essential to why I become incel) in draft for weeks now. I just can’t get myself to write.

  11. I take it there are other incels, there is a myriad of free or cheap solutions for almost anything – hosting, domain names, various forum boards, there’s Facebook and so on. Perhaps starting a subreddit for other incels where you can exchange ideas, organize meetups, raise awareness? The /r/Incel I found is a joke, perhaps if you put little effort and you become a mod, things would improve? /r/ForeverAlone isn’t doing any better.

    • Look… The problem is that it is kinda true what the trolls say. There aren’t almost any incels who agree with me. I use to insult to trolls because they claim nonsense such as that dozens of incels have come out and disagreed with me when there were only one or two, and some “incels” there were actually not fitting the type or weren’t sure it they’re incels.
      But… it is true that most incels don’t agree with me. Not in a way that they laugh at me or strawman me, they just don’t agree that the government should do something or think it’s fiction to try that.

      Also, they’re still seen as butt of jokes, they won’t be making groups on places like Fb.

      There are a few incels who support my ideas but don’t want to get involved.

      So I’ll just go on writing the blog for now. I’m on my own. But I have many stories to tell about my life, in the end everything will be create a clear, though not a very happy picture. I just need mental stability.

  12. Eh:
    That’s right. The MGTOW movement obviously started because women were too sweet, loving, kind, and treat men so well that we just couldn’t stand them anymore, didn’t it? Reading GGGF’s experiences and listening to rot and denial people like you are in brings back a flood of bad memories from my pre-Red Pill days.

    Even a mangina like John Gray, the author of the pathetic ‘Men Are from Mars’ series admits that women end relationships 90% of the time. It’s stastically true that American women initiate divorces 72% of the time, with another 14% initiated by the man on her behalf.

    But ‘not all women are like that’, right? LOL

  13. It just -really- kill you that the men you insult by calling them “fags” and “manginas” are getting so much more tail than you are, when you consider yourself so inferior for not getting it. no wonder you have such issues and youre such a walking douchebag.

    I realized you treat women like theyre just walking vaginas who dispense magical sex because you yourself are just a walking, talking, impotent dickhead.

    I love me some men who take charge. I love getting fucked until I am screaming, crying and begging for a break. I’d love to be dominated. And if you were the only man on the planet, I think I’d rather try to teach a goat to fill my needs. You arent worth even getting a handjob from an AIDS infected transvestite.

    • “It just -really- kill you that the men you insult by calling them “fags” and “manginas” are getting so much more tail than you are, when you consider yourself so inferior for not getting it. no wonder you have such issues and youre such a walking douchebag.”

      How do you know they’re getting more? Oh, you don’t? So you just came here to troll. I give your effort 4/10. Also, I am getting sex now. Doesn’t mean I’m still not partially incel, as incel is even more about relationships than sex.

      “I realized you treat women like theyre just walking vaginas who dispense magical sex because you yourself are just a walking, talking, impotent dickhead.”

      If I were any of this except impotent I’d be getting women left and right.

      “I love me some men who take charge. I love getting fucked until I am screaming, crying and begging for a break. I’d love to be dominated. And if you were the only man on the planet, I think I’d rather try to teach a goat to fill my needs. You arent worth even getting a handjob from an AIDS infected transvestite.”

      Yes, you would probably reject me even if you didn’t know about this blog. But that has nothing to do with my “worth”. The more worthless I am the less likely you’d be to reject me.

    • Jen:
      “It really just kills you that the men you insult by calling them fags and manginas are getting more tail than you are.”

      If that’s true, it says more about the low standards women have in choosing men than anything else.

      “I realize that you treat women like walking vaginas, &c.”

      And women, of course, don’t treat men as expendable or anything, do they? I guess you all don’t really mean it when you say men are ‘useless for anything but sperm donors.’

      ” I love me some men take charge, &c.”

      Oh bullshit. If you’re anything like the others, you chase after thugs and punks who give you sex anyway you like in exchange for supporting their bad habits. You’d avoid any real man who was capable of ‘taking charge.’

      “You aren’t even worth getting a handjob from an AIDS infected transvestite.”

      So, who’s the one throwing out the gay-shaming now? LOL

      • Inkblot:
        ‘Women are perfectly entitled to any kind of sex they want, however they want.’

        Entitled, are they? Well, too many believe in sexual entitlements (along they routinely pounce on GGGF for suggesting that men should have some say in the matter).

        None of these cunts are ‘entitled’ to have sex with me or any other man, unless a man chooses to have sex with them.

        “As you both seem to be objectifying self-centered assholes, I’d say that shows pretty good taste”.

        Actually if we really were objectifying self-centered assholes, we’d be ‘chick magnets.’

        http://www.no-maam.blogspot.com/2004/05/bonecrcker-150-women-with-past-abusive.html

      • You misunderstand me. Women are entitled to any sex they want. That’s different from being entitled to a sex partner. And you sir have earned your fedora. You don’t automatically get sex just because you’re nice to us.

      • Inkblot:
        “Women are entitled to any sex they want.”

        That’s disputable; but assuming it’s so, why restrict choices for men? Women don’t have a monopoly on sex or sexual choices (except in places like America where it’s forcibly imposed on men).

        “You don’t automatically get sex because you’re nice to us.”

        I would say that being nice disqualifies a man for sex in most female minds. A violent, abusive jerk, on the other hand—well, women can barely keep their hands off such males. A case of like attracting like! LOL

        • Inkblot has been banned for inability to read and using this blog to promote feminist crap. Her calling me (of all people!) a “nice guy” was the final straw. Her asking stupid questions based misrepresentation of my position and accusations of evading responses when I told her she should educate herself didn’t help either.

  14. GGGF:
    Even though I know that you don’t live in America, there was an interesting report released recently by our own government which found that 23% of US women over the age of 12 are taking prescription psychiatric antidepressants and nearly 25% of women here under 25 have contracted an STD.

    When I hear these critics constantly whining here that ‘the problem is YOU’ and that ‘women pick up on this stuff’; it’s kind of difficult in the face of numbers like these to assume that men (at least in North America) are really a significant part of any INCEL problem. In fact, despite all the propaganda about men being ‘potential rapists’, it looks like it’s American men who run the risk of hooking up with a psycho over here. This is one reason why I think that most INCELs could benefit from MGTOW—just as a matter of self-preservation.

    As an aside, on American INCEL: a related article also cited that the US has the highest percentage of single households in the world; also that 1/3 of American children live without a father; and that the US both consumes and produces more pornography than any other country on earth.

  15. op you should consider yourself lucky you dodged a bullet this girl just got out of a relationship and you actually thought you could have something serious with her? And secondly what ruined it was when you opened up to her and confess to her people are mean believe it or not for women its a turn off when you show weakness and you opening up like that too early was a sign of weakness move on

      • I’m speakin from experince

        I have done what you have done and everytime I did women would run away unless we are already in a relationship. Women lose attraction when they see something or hear something they don’t like.

        In terms of this article its partially true

    • And secondly what ruined it was when you opened up to her and confess to her people are mean believe it or not for women its a turn off when you show weakness and you opening up like that too early was a sign of weakness move on

      Not just for women – I’ve had a similar experience to GGG, but in reverse: I pulled the plug on a developing relationship because she wanted to take things too far, too fast, and confessed to lots of intimate psychological issues that I really wasn’t ready to take on board at a time when I barely knew her. Alarm bells were already jangling long before she gave me the excuse to pull the plug by telling me a direct lie about something important.

      I was completely honest with her that it was over, and when she rang me three weeks later, I was equally honest about the fact that I’d found another girlfriend (there was no overlap, despite one of her later accusations) and that there was no chance of any reconciliation. But instead of simply moving on, she stalked me for several more months, writing me ranty emails about how I was only with my new partner because of “Stockholm syndrome” – we’d actually just got engaged when that one turned up, which gave us both a good laugh. Fortunately, the stalking was exclusively online, because if she’d taken it into the real world and started threatening people other than myself, the police might well have got involved.

      If it’s over, it’s over. Successful relationships need the enthusiastic consent of two people in order to work – you can’t force people to change their minds, and “punishing” them (either physically or psychologically) for having second thoughts is pretty much guaranteed to make things worse.

  16. I literally cannot understand how you can blame anyone but yourself for not having a girlfriend. You don’t have a girlfriend because you’re psychotic and girls can sense that. No female owes you sex, no one owes you a relationship. It’s not the government’s job to provide you with a girlfriend. You do it yourself by being a decent human being. Even if the government did hand you a lady, she would be out of the door in 2 seconds after seeing how act. You deserve this. You deserve to be alone forever. I sincerely hope you die alone and no woman ever has to deal with you.

    You could easily turn everything around by realizing that women are not playthings for you, if a woman does not want to be with you and realizes that 5 dates in, she has the right. If you think she’s “leading you on” you are just acting like an entitled jerk who thinks he deserves a girlfriend.

    Or maybe you should just start dating another man who thinks he is entitled to everything. Awesome idea, end blog.

    • Wow:
      “You don’t have a girlfriend because you’re psychotic and girls can sense that.”

      That must be why Charles Manson has such a huge female following.

      “You deserve this! You deserve to be alone forever! I hope you die alone…find a man and date him &c., &c. &c.”

      Specimens of woman’s superior capacity for compassion and empathy. LOL

    • Yeah, but it is the governments job to pay for your welfare to raise the kids you had with your badboy, or pay for your birth control, right?? Typical retarded argument that only a femicunt could make. Cunts like you will only learn when George Sodini comes into your life.. As long as a single cent of my tax dollars go to fund feminism, I AM entitled to sex.. Period..

      • Now that’s funny. “I pay taxes so I AM entitled to sex.. Period..”

        Really? I pay taxes too. Where do I go to file for my sex benefits?

        Badboy? That’s usually a codeword for POC, or at least “someone who isn’t me.” News flash buddy, you are NOT entitled to sex.. Period.. Ever. You can do like the rest of us and negotiate for it, try and find a nice girl to be with, or whatever, but it’s not an entitlement, tax-funded or otherwise. Whining and complaining won’t get you any. And do get your crazed killers straight, ok? Cho was the Virginia Tech shooter, not the Aurora Theater killer. I know, I know, not really your fault. Lunatic losers all kind of look the same after awhile. Just losers.

  17. I know a way you can put an end to to this useless whiney blog, your needless existence on the internet, long nights of masturbating furiously with your tears as lubricant, etc.
    Put an end to your own life! It’s that simple, you *~NONCEL NORMATIVE FOOL~* because merely co-existing with the rest of humanity is too difficult for yourself or anyone else to handle, just kill yourself and you simultaneously take care of the massive problem that is your life and its unfortunate impact on everyone else, specifically females.
    It’s not even hard, just take a piece of rope and hang yourself from a door knob. Tie a cement block to your ankle and jump into a lake. Why you perpetuate your insignificant life by arguing with strangers on the internet and being a delusional, unwanted, beta piece of shit? You don’t deserve happiness. You deserve every bad thing that has ever fucking happened to you.
    You deserve to be rejected by the most hideous creature on earth as the last remaining entity on the planet during mating season. End your life, and may we all rejoice that the gene pool will never be tainted by a fuck up such as yourself.

    Sincerely,
    The Government

    • I believe that you work for the government. Governments usually want productive members of society like GGGF killed off so that females can produce feral offspring with thugs and losers. It keeps the welfare rolls swelled and is good job security for the prison-industrial complex. Occasionally, it’s a good supply of military cannon-fodder too.

  18. It sounds like you could use a frank women’s perspective. It’s rude to make and then cancel plans, it’s understandable that you’re upset. But here’s a thought — if I was talking to someone, them revealing their insecurities (especially so quickly) would be a huge, huge turn-off. I could be really into a guy, but as soon as he gets clingy and says he’s terrified I’ll reject him, I start pulling away. Women like men who are confident, happy with their lives, and not needy. Based on what I read and based on my own experiences, she got the impression that you were the opposite of the aforementioned and thus pulled away. I realize that there are women who are the exception — such behavior would not be a turn off for them. But in general, I’ve noticed that I and the women I know don’t like that.

  19. Wow. I’m not going to try to diagnose you or anything, but from a laymen’s perspective this is some high-grade narcisism and the complete inability to see others (notably, women) as people with feelings and insecurities, just like you.

    #1: If you’re not experienced with relationships, this may be a subtlety that would miss you, but… if she just got out a relationship, and is dancing around whether or not she will get back with her ex, then SHE is in some serious emotional pain and confusion, too. Probably doesn’t know exactly what she wants right now. And she’s in no place emotionally to be taking complete responsibility for your happiness. She barely knows you. The world does not revolve around you.

    #2: Breaking off plans is insensitive, sure. So is dragging on a guy you’re not really interested in because you’re too afraid or guilty to tell him frankly that you’re not interested. But that’s mainly an immaturity issue, to be honest. I would hazard a guess that this woman is either young or fairly inexperienced with love, so she hasn’t really got the confidence to say, “no, thanks.” She just handled things poorly, which can happen, particularly when you’re young and already hurt and emotionally confused. She’s not some evil super villain bent on destroying you. In fact, as it turns out, the world does not revolve around you.

    #3: She doesn’t owe you anything. She didn’t steal anything from you, she didn’t assault or harass or stalk you. She turned you down, which is her right. If you harass or assault or stalk her, that is not your right. I’m sorry you’re hurt, but the world does not revolve around you.

    #4 I would guess that many, many people have told you this before, but you’re very proficient in the mental gymnastics that it takes to dodge plain common sense. Here goes anyway: Welcome to life. Everybody is hurting, everybody has challenges. If you can’t understand that about the people around you, if your every interaction is about you you you, and everybody that doesn’t cater to your needs exactly as you want them, when you want them is considered “scum,” then nobody is going to want to date you. Nobody wants to be put under the pressure of your entire happiness and self worth. And, more importantly, nobody wants to be around someone that mindlessly narcissistic. I’ve read a number of your posts and writings on this and other sites, and I’m absolutely astounded by your complete lack of ability to empathize with people on any level, instead you seem to see them as toys that you are entitled to.

    I’m sorry you’re sad. I’ve been deeply depressed in the past too, as have many others. This mindless self pity and obsessive behaviour isn’t helping. It’s not helping you overcome your own personal problems and it sure as hell isn’t making you any more appealing to potential partners.

    And finally (this shouldn’t need to be said, but anyway) Don’t rape people. Don’t stalk people. Don’t harass people. Don’t assault people. If you do those things, it’s not your mother’s fault, or society’s fault, or the woman’s fault, it’s your fault. Get that? YOUR FAULT. If you have done or will do any of these things, you belong in jail.

    I hope you get a good therapist and honestly commit yourself to your own recovery.

    • “nobody wants to be around someone that mindlessly narcissistic”

      Of course, this is nonsense. Women like and date narcissistic men all the time.

      “I’ve read a number of your posts and writings on this and other sites, and I’m absolutely astounded by your complete lack of ability to empathize with people on any level”

      What do you think about people who say that never having a relationship/sex is no problem at all at that every normal person wouldn’t see it as a problem at all? That only mentally ill people suffer because they don’t have sex and relationships? They’re all just full of empathy, aren’t they?

      “instead you seem to see them as toys that you are entitled to.”

      Any examples except me being mad at this girl?

      “I hope you get a good therapist and honestly commit yourself to your own recovery.”

      Why wasn’t any incel I know of helped by therapy?

      • – How would you know what women like? You’ve never dated any of them for any significant amount of time, you’ve made a point about that. So this idea that you have about women and what they like, where are you getting that from? The TV?
        But, for the record, there is a difference between having a touch too much ego and devoting your whole life to whining to strangers about what the world owes you. How many hours have you spent sitting at the computer today talking about yourself on the internet? Be honest. Count them

        – So, you’re telling me that it’s okay for you to not have any empathy, because some people on the internet didn’t show you any empathy? Because nobody but you in the history of the world has ever had someone be mean to them on the internet, clearly. This doesn’t strike you as four-year-old logic? And anyway, the point is moot because we’re not pointing fingers about who’s meaner, we’re talking about what behaviour is helpful and healthy for building relationships. This ain’t it.

        – Because they don’t call themselves “incels”. They call themselves “people who had difficulties with their interpersonal relationships, but who worked on themselves and improved their social skills and outlook.” If you pathologize yourself, and make your own social behaviour into some external phenomenon that you’re somehow not responsible for, then of COURSE you’re not going to improve. If you’re already convinced that your own life is other peoples’ responsibility, how the hell is a therapist going to help you? The whole IDEA of therapy is that a therapist guides you and helps you learn to fix your own life. Quit obsessing over this word that you hide behind so that you don’t have to fix your own problems. The therapist can’t do everything. He’s not magic.

    • Vera:
      That diagnosis was a masterpiece of female projection. Reverse the genders in the whole comment; and you’ve described everything that is wrong with modern women.

  20. Um, can I draw attention to the fact that when you admit to having a “friend with benefits”, or a “tuck buddy”, you no longer get to play the “unintentionally celibate” card. Game over. Get over yourself.

      • So your friend with benefits doesn’t want to be your girlfriend in the conventional sense? Does this relationship (and it IS a relationship) not fiftil part of the “D/S/R” trifecta you go on about? So things aren’t perfect. This isn’t a disorder, it’s the human condition. Use that relationship as a springboard. To bolster your experience. A trial-run, if you will. And here’s a hint: stop saying/thinking mean, nasty things about these potential girlfriends. Could be why your fuck-buddy doesn’t want to take it to the next level. And I want to know: what changes do you see in yourself if you were to get a girlfriend tomorrow? Relationships are seldom perfect between normal people. What makes you think that without a lot of work on your part on YOURSELF the relationship would be beneficial to you?

  21. If she does not feel comfortable to meet you than that is entirely her prerogative. She doesn’t have to explain her self and she doesn’t have to meet you. Maybe she did’t feel safe, maybe she changed her mind, its pretty irrelevant because that is HER decision to make. I am aware that you acknowlege that you are not to entitled to meet her, which is good. However, you are are clearly blaming her for the situation (as the title suggests) when instead it is your own feelings of being unable to let it go that are the problem. She may, in your mind, have caused them, but that does not mean that she is to blame. You must acknowlege that no one should feel obliged to put themselves in a position that they are not comfortable with, that goes over and above your ‘need’ to see her and you should not be shaming her for that. I hope you unserstand where I am coming from.

  22. I’m not trying to be condescending, I’m genuinely confused.
    “This is something nobody has ever done to me.” What exactly? Cancel on a date on short notice? The only almost-boyfriend I had before the age of 20 ditched a date without even letting me know (he forgot), and we stopped seeing each other, but it certainly didn’t make me hate him or want to teach him that “his actions have consequences.”
    Obviously it’s rude and hurtful, but it doesn’t warrant the type of venom you seem to have. You said you want to teach her that actions have consequences, but what action do you mean?
    If it’s the act of cancelling a date and saying she doesn’t want to be involved with you, that’s her right. Every person has the right to decide who they have relationships with, and you have no right to punish people for exercising that.
    You called her a psychopath in one of the comments, but that is not psychopathic behavior. A psychopath, if she didn’t want to date you, wouldn’t have given you a second chance because you’d been in the hospital, and certainly wouldn’t have responded well to you lecturing her about cancelling the Friday date. A psychopath wouldn’t have spent several long emails trying to make you feel better. This is just a guess, but I think if she had seemed like a psychopath, you wouldn’t be this hateful toward her.
    I’m sorry she hurt you, it was wrong, but everyone has the right to choose who they do or don’t spend time with.
    On an unrelated note: With most women, it’s more effective to not seem desperate or fearful, at least for the first couple months. Not that most women won’t be sympathetic, most women like feeling comforting and motherly, but YOU don’t want women to feel motherly with you, because women tend not to want romantic relationships with men that they’re motherly toward.

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  24. See I could never be married to a chick…they all had to go….seems like you do try…women asked me out…not sure I ever did…and even then I just felt confused about myself….why can’t you isolate what you like? Like goth women…or emo?

  25. 26 year old incel and virgin here. I suppose I find it hard to sympathize with you seeing as I’ve never been in relationship or had intercourse at all. And, barring me using a prostitute I don’t expect that to change. Its probably not your intent but there are tons of other guys like me that would consider what you have gotten (a fuck buddy for example) a huge achievement. You talk about these injustices (and you have good points) but coming from my perspective it’s a slap in the face.

    While I still desire sex and some parts of me desire a woman, I’ve learned to be quite happy alone. It is obvious you’ve figured out like most of us that women tend to be largely a waste of time and the primary source of stress in men’s life. Yet despite this you continue pursuing relationships. It seems like you have a serious problem; you can’t seem to get past needing a woman. That’s pretty sad.

    I’m not going to claim my life is great. At the same time I’m not going to claim just because a woman entered into a relationship with me it would improve. Like you, I’ve got a ton of personal issues and while society is fucked up (the story of your incel – an inconvenient truth I largely agreed with) I’m not going to use that entirely as an excuse for why I don’t have a woman.

    I guess my point is, perhaps you should learn to live without. There are other things to dedicate yourself to besides women, and I think that if you thought about it you’d realize that getting a woman might not even turn out to be all that great. Is it really worth putting up with women’s bullshit for a few mintues of sexual release? And you say incel is more than about just sex….is it? From what I see, it seems women are incapable of loving; at the very least men like you and I anyway so what is the fucking point on dwelling on it? Society wants to enable these cunts to breed with the dregs? Who cares? How will it matter to us after we’re dead and gone anyways? Is it our duty or something to make sure society stays healthy? I don’t agree with that.

    Finally, I see you are versed in history. Like you, I’ve noticed this trend of societies falling due to a combination of wealth, women getting “rights” etc has happened time and time again. Part of me wonders if this is just inevitable. Men’s nature seems cursed to always pander to women so after this all falls apart I fully expect men won’t learn their lesson and just forgive women as usual. That’s what’s really disgusting to me. I can see shades of it in how men deal with women today. Not just the white knights, but how men are so desperate and have no self-respect. Everyday at work I see fit, good-looking guys settling for some fat chick. Or poor beaten down husband walking with his ugly/fat wife. Men constantly chasing after single mothers. Humans claim to be the smartest creatures on earth but they seem remarkably resistant to change. Perhaps the internet and availability of information will make a difference this time but I doubt it.

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